tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1389986049507804094.post1726009342134951979..comments2024-03-25T21:52:03.310-05:00Comments on Hill Cantons: Map and Links for Magira and MidgardChris Kutalikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01414743509426875792noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1389986049507804094.post-56828473976771166382022-02-16T09:09:02.198-06:002022-02-16T09:09:02.198-06:00The German Midgard RPG did NOT evolve from Midgard...The German Midgard RPG did NOT evolve from MidgardUK. Patterson's game was based on the Armageddon game, the wargaming component of the 'Eternal Game' played by the German FOLLOW Club since 1967.<br /><br />Patterson was the publisher of War Bulletin, a play-by-mail diplomacy fanzine. In May 1971, he proposed starting a PBM campaign based on Armageddon, using a transcription of a flyer he had brought home from the SF Worldcon in Heidelberg the previous year. Where he saw the FOLLOW Club demonstrating the game. He also explains this in White Dwarf No.2.<br /><br />It's easy to understand that Jürgen Franke, a FOLLOW member and therefore a Magira and Armageddon player, used the name "Midgard" for his own RPG. "Midgard" is simply an old Germanic name for the world we live in, it's just the same as "Middle-earth".<br /><br />(By the way, Franke dates back to 1952, so when Patterson started his "Midgard" he was about 18 years old. He joined FOLLOW in 1973.)<br /><br />No smoking gun here, but lots of fingerprints...The real McKayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06630735635398719596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1389986049507804094.post-85738721908063865742011-02-12T08:16:55.836-06:002011-02-12T08:16:55.836-06:00Thata's a cool map. I think the German just a...Thata's a cool map. I think the German just adds to it.Treyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647628467658839351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1389986049507804094.post-13753875081883962792011-02-11T16:20:15.682-06:002011-02-11T16:20:15.682-06:00Gorgeous. One footnote that Harami may shout down:...Gorgeous. One footnote that Harami may shout down: I've suspected for awhile that German-language Midgard only confuses the line from Armageddon through what we could call "MidgardUK" -- http://www.newsfrombree.co.uk/midmap.htm -- but not back to the game now enshrined in wikipedia and elsewhere. Two separate games with theoretically common lineage. For all I know, Magira/MidgardDE even evolved back out of MidgardUK, recrossing the language barrier in the process.<br /><br />Since Franke was apparently only around 10 years old when Patterson was busy ramping up Midgard UK, this gives me what might be a smoking gun! The hobby is punctuated with prodigies but even we have limits.bombasticushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09570356997079883076noreply@blogger.com